i had a short conversation in jack'd with a person who asked me about mbti-types a couple of days back. yup, interesting that such a conversation would occur in a commonly perceived gay "sex-centric & to be expected superficial interaction" application. anyway, yes, this "semi-professional" conversation did occur.
as i said, it was about mbti-types, the myers briggs type indicator, or at least it was about mbti when we started (the mbti is a personality tool). the conversation started ok but after two three messages, it became clear that he was not in the full know of the tool or, perhaps, at best a cursory knowledge of it. and i concluded so when he stated quite confidently that it would be quite impossible for a person to adapt to different personality-types. well personally, i cannot claim to fully know the depth despite the fact that i had used the tool for the past 18 years or so... but i think i know it with sufficient depth about the tool to know when one tries to skirt the topic. yup, that was what happened. as the conversation developed, he started to drift from the topic of personality-tools, to leadership theories, to team-building models without realizing it... and he went on to mention some names about these commonly used tools... and when i shared that despite many firms having their own models, most could be distilled to one or two fundamental concepts. i also suggested that consulting firms do that due to business differentiation/ and bottom-line considerations, and more importantly to boost their businesses. he disagreed and said that his firm's model is more than a tool and that it was used for top management/ c-suite, etc. it was quite interesting. this was a 23 year old person who claimed he is a management consultant and does transformation work etc, etc, etc. his responses reminded me of myself when i was much younger.
when i was much younger, i was a fiercely defensive person. i would be quick to defend my views and many a times, in order to show off and/ or to convince people that i know my stuff (or so i thought), i would rattle off non-stop about things without realizing that i had either gone off topic or that whatever i said revealed even more of my own ignorance. well, it was perhaps a good (or bad) thing that i was brought up in an environment where people would interrupt rudely to tell me off and that i should do my research before i even try to engage them further; or i should just stop talking nonsense and making a fool of myself. heh heh... and usually, i would end up with a lot of internal pent up tensions and would blame people for going out to embarrass me. but well, that was my era and people don't give a hoot to tell you off. and that was me, young, and trying to impress.
anyway, back to this person, through the conversation, it was interesting to hear his point of views. at times, he sounded defensive, and many a times he sounded like he wanted to impress. i admit i had doubted his knowledge and i had also questioned his credibility as a "management consultant". at his age, it would be a real challenge for anyone to be able to do any credible consultancy work, much less "management" consultant. at some stage, i even suspected he was a clerical staff or at most a research assistant of sorts. but i did not stop the conversation. i continued to engage him and ask him for his perspective of things. i did not want to make him feel uncomfortable. after all, i do not know him per se, and there's absolutely no need to sound unfriendly. we ended the conversation with me suggesting that we share further about his company's model.
reflecting, i think i have matured. these days, i am more conscious about and in a better position not to sound condescending. even if a person come across as ignorant, i would still respect them and prod them on. i do not think there is a need to embarrass the person. regardless of how illogical he may sound, his views must be respected and that his stand needs to be gently views. by prodding on, it would probably allow him to slowly understand that there are many possible perspectives to things other than his alone, and possibly, for him to realize how naive he sounded. one reason why i do that is because i have come to understand that no one holds absolute authority over any specific domain of knowledge. for any topic, there will be different perspectives and every single perspective is shaped as a result of a person's exposure (or lack of it) to the topic and his/ her experience. and certainly, when person lacks of experience, you cannot fault him, you simply have to allow him to grow up. and that takes time...
ok, my writing is going all over now...
will stop here.
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11 comments:
I thought the title says "taking" cock at first. LOL.
hahaha... hope you did not finish reading and still wondering when he is taking the cock?
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I did!! LOL
Then I read back the title and it finally made sense! Bimbo me!
oops... lol!
Why do I feel your type is probably an INFJ? Sorry if intrusive. But, you sparked my curiosity. Please feel free to ignore.
Hi Edwin, 3 out of 4, you're good! Well, I am an ISFJ. A high S for that matter.
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Thank you. I'm strictly an amateur but I find it a fascinating shorthand to begin appreciating another person.
I am surprised by the high S: you strike me as very much wanting to have a positive impact on the broader future (of course, not exclusionary).
Fair play: I am an INfp.
hey Edwin, it is only a type. one can adapt and adopt the different types depending on the circumstances one is in. for example, although i am a high I, i am also equally comfortable being an E when at work. so... yup, from this angle, while i am a high S, i can say i am able to be more N when there is a need to. but to do so, i would need a lot of help, eg if i want to see patterns and make associations (what N people is natural at), i need to take time to reflect and possibly even do mind maps to understand relationships...
so.... yup, self-awareness is a good start to start self management...
INFP... interestingly most people who enjoys the process of blogging or reads blog tend to be I's. And it is interesting that you are a P too, something that probably is more common in non-asian countries...
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Hi Peace,
I think we all rise to the demands of our environment and roles we want to play. My "official" typing (Myers-Briggs database) was INtp in a work environment. My normal preference is definitely "P", although in crisis, I will quickly switch to "J" ;-)
I was not aware of a bias to "J" in asian cultures. I was aware that the "SP" combination in action will present (appear) as "J".
If I may, if I had your dream, I would agree that I felt under stress: anxious about my future. The high status attained in the tower is under threat, and the shadowy Mr X is my voice of fear directing my actions. The poor swimmer frantic to survive the flood was perceived by Mr X as a threat that can not be allowed in my front room to be seen by the other towers through the window. He survives by entering and emerging from the bedroom, a part of myself (or maybe my lover) angry and feeling betrayed by my fear, my anxiety for my future. Of course, it would only be my dream. Maybe a reminder that I feel like I live in a hostile world that can threaten parts of me, but I still need to be a whole person to survive and thrive. Unfortunately, there are real people who are hostile, fear driven in the world, and who can be real threats.
Sorry for hijacking your dream. Feel free to disregard.
Best wishes
Hey thanks again for the input! It's an interesting interpretation of my dream! Quite in line with what I had concluded, although I couldn't quite figure out the parts about the high rise building, Mr x and the struggling man.
And hey, you are too courteous. Please don't apologise. Am appreciative and thankful for sharing your views. Often, I find them interesting, and refreshing and i do look forward to it. So, do continue to share your views whenever you feel like it.
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Glad if you found it interesting. I look forward to my dreams: helps take the temperature of my subconscious ;-) Easier to understand and manage any moodiness.
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